Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:43:36 EDT
 JAIL BEFORE YOU ARE GUILTY AND WITH NO VICTIM - ALL IT TAKES IS AN ACCUSATION

Bills presented in Oregon, 

Washington, Oregon, California, and Idaho, It seems there are no state 
boundry
When it comes to passing Bills into law... they all have the same scent..

We have faith in the people of Oregon that they see through the schemes of Kevin Mannix and his associate social engineers and traitorous bar members in the legislature.

 Among the insidious tenacles of this blatant unconstitutional regime, is the
language that is seen quite often wherein "Except as otherwise specifically
provided, this section
>supersedes any conflicting section of this Constitution." This is going to
completely destroy the integrity of the original constitution once and for
all, and silence any parts that establish restrictions on government that
"conflict" with these unconstitutional measures.
Another concealled intent, and the primary purpose of this bill, (and
many others like it pushed past a thousand other bills that never got
hearing on the self interest of Mannix and fellow TRAITORS) (that is what
someone who commits TREASON IS) .... By allowing the STATE to incarcerate
people BEFORE trial, and not require a victim, gives the STATE ultimate
control over EVERYONE ...... the STATE is a fictitious entity - not an
actual person - and just like the STATE accuses everyone, then uses a
revolving party of 210 assistant attorney generals at taxpayer expense to
destroy anyone who comes against the STATE or challenges the STATES
authority. By jailing people who have been ACCUSED - and it makes special
mention of sex abuse "allegations".....This is the FAVORITE TOOL of the
persecutors - throw the "nasty card" at every man, especially, and that is
all ! The courts will create the rest of the story, with compromised state
employed counsellors and officers who will write hearsay reports and destroy
childrens minds with sexual abuse and call this evidence.......We have
proven this first hand, that the STATE will also in this manner refuse to
allow lies to be recanted, and will proceed with prosecution in the NAME OF
THE STATE (?!) having created a fictitious, non existent "victim" to
"defend". The DA "assumes" that "probably" the person recanted bacuse they
were "intimidated" by the defendant, another reason to jail "potential"
criminals.......the snake coils around and around the tree of justice.......
The primary goal of this bill is that once you are incarcerated, you
CANNOT defend yourself. I am president of Oregon Judicial Watch and can
confirm the horrendous situation right now with plea bargains, mandated
sentences and courts of no due process or real evidence, wherein corrupt
Appeals court judges on parole boards refuse to release prisoners even when
they have served their terms, and the prisons have a federal money "prisoner
incentive" program which rewards the STATE NOT to release prisoners. Once
the person is incarcerated, they are forced in to a compelled contract with
a prostitute attorney who works for the STATE - the STATE is creating a ONE
HANDS GROUP (have already done this) whereby EVERYONE IN THE COURTROOM works
for the State or is Licensed by the STATE or is subcontracted to the STATE
so that they are comrpomised.
EVERY PIECE OF VICTIMS RIGHTS LEGISLATION AND PROTECT THE CHILD PROTECTS
THE REGIME AND DESTROYS INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS.
In l986 Kitzhaber said THE STATE IS THE PARENT OF THE CHILD and all of the
legislation is IN PLACE ALREADY and this is the crowning achievement
carefully orchestrated by Mannix and fellow bar members who are violating
the constitution by even BEING IN THE LEGISLATURE and also being members of
the judicial branch, the bar being a "branch" of the courts......
The media, by omissions, have kept the people in the dark, but no
longer.
These measures were pushed through without any process in place to insure
constitutionality - for the Legislature to move forward unconstitutional
rules, which are VOID OF LAW, is in itself TREASON and MISPRISON OF FELONY
to deny citizens access to right of redress of greivances.
THE CONSTITUTION RESTRICTS GOVERNMENT - IT DOES NOT "GIVE' ANYBODY RIGHTS
!!!!!!!! IT ONLY ESTABLISHES INVIOLATE RIGHTS OF CHILDREN OF GOD !!!! THE
STATUTES THAT HAVE USURPED THE CONSTITUTION SAY THEY 'CONFER RIGHTS'
(example ORCP 20(C) says statutes "a right derived therefrom") - It is so
BLATANT now that we see how the bar has insidiously undermined our freedom,
in particular since l910, creating a counterfeit constitutional amendment to
create a provisional government. This was never ratified, and now we have
challenged the Oregon Supreme Court to defend this TREASON against the
people.
WAKE UP AMERICA
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Les Lemke <leslemke@earthlink.net>
To: govtwatch@egroups.com <govtwatch@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 3:53 AM
Subject: OREGON HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 90 - MEASURE 71


>OREGON HOUSE JOINT RESULTION 90 = MEASURE 71
>
>You say you've been wrongly arrested and you are innocent and
>would like to have bail set? Forget it...this is from HJR 90.
>
>Remember now....your SUPPOSED TO BE INNOCENT until
>proven guilty.
>
>"Murder, aggravated murder and treason shall not be bailable when
>the proof is evident or the presumption strong that the person is
>guilty. Other violent felonies shall not be bailable when a court
>has determined there is probable cause to believe the criminal
>defendant committed the crime, and the court finds, by clear and
>convincing evidence, that there is danger of physical injury or
>sexual victimization to the victim or members of the public by
>the criminal defendant while on release."
>
>Pay close attention to the fact that it is THE STATE that is
>making the determination that a person is "dangerous"..... I'm not
>saying that people who are clearly violent and dangerous to society
>shouldn't be denied bail. What I'm trying to convey is the power the
>state is creating for itself.
>
>
>THEN WE HAVE (From Section 2):
>*****************************
>"Except as otherwise specifically provided, this section
>supersedes any conflicting section of this Constitution."
>
>AND THE BEST PART OF IT ALL:
>******************************
>"In the event no person has been determined to be a victim
>of the crime, the people of Oregon, represented by the prosecuting
>attorney, are considered to be the victims."
>
>Guess we can go after all those nasty PARENTS that don't go along
>with GOVERNMENTSPEAK, eh? And then there's political dissidents,
>activists and other DANGEROUS people that THE GOVERNMENT
>doesn't like.....
>
>Here's House Joint Resolution 90 - Measure 90 on the ballot.
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>
>
>
> 70th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--1999 Regular Session
>
>
> Enrolled
>
> House Joint Resolution 90
>
>Sponsored by COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY - CRIMINAL LAW
>
>
>
>Be It Resolved by the Legislative Assembly of the State of
> Oregon:
>
> PARAGRAPH 1. The Constitution of the State of Oregon is amended
>by creating a new section to be added to and made a part of
>Article I, such section to read:
> { + (1) To ensure that a fair balance is struck between the
>rights of crime victims and the rights of criminal defendants in
>the course and conduct of criminal proceedings, the following
>rights are hereby granted to victims in all prosecutions for
>crimes:
> (a) The right to be reasonably protected from the criminal
>defendant or the convicted criminal throughout the criminal
>justice process and from the alleged youth offender or youth
>offender throughout the juvenile delinquency proceedings.
> (b) The right to have decisions by the court regarding the
>pretrial release of a criminal defendant based upon the principle
>of reasonable protection of the victim and the public, as well as
>the likelihood that the criminal defendant will appear for trial.
>Murder, aggravated murder and treason shall not be bailable when
>the proof is evident or the presumption strong that the person is
>guilty. Other violent felonies shall not be bailable when a court
>has determined there is probable cause to believe the criminal
>defendant committed the crime, and the court finds, by clear and
>convincing evidence, that there is danger of physical injury or
>sexual victimization to the victim or members of the public by
>the criminal defendant while on release.
> (2) This section applies to proceedings pending or commenced on
>or after the effective date of this section. Nothing in this
>section abridges any right of the criminal defendant guaranteed
>by the Constitution of the United States, including the rights to
>be represented by counsel, have counsel appointed if indigent,
>testify, present witnesses, cross-examine witnesses or present
>information at the release hearing. Nothing in this section
>creates any cause of action for compensation or damages nor may
>this section be used to invalidate an accusatory instrument,
>ruling of a court, conviction or adjudication or otherwise
>suspend or terminate any criminal or juvenile delinquency
>proceeding at any point after the case is commenced or on appeal.
>Except as otherwise specifically provided, this section
>supersedes any conflicting section of this Constitution.
> (3) As used in this section:
> (a) 'Victim' means any person determined by the prosecuting
>attorney to have suffered direct financial, psychological or
>physical harm as a result of a crime and, in the case of a victim
>who is a minor, the legal guardian of the minor. In the event no
>person has been determined to be a victim of the crime, the
>people of Oregon, represented by the prosecuting attorney, are
>
>Enrolled House Joint Resolution 90 (HJR 90-B) Page 1

>considered to be the victims. In no event is it intended that the
>criminal defendant be considered the victim.
> (b) 'Violent felony' means a felony in which there was actual
>or threatened serious physical injury to a victim or a felony
>sexual offense.
> (4) The prosecuting attorney is the party authorized to assert
>the rights of the victim and the public established by this
>section. + }
>
 PARAGRAPH 2. { + The amendment proposed by this resolution
>shall be submitted to the people for their approval or rejection
>at a special election held throughout this state on the date
>specified in section 2, chapter ___, Oregon Laws 1999 (Enrolled
>House Bill 2354). + }
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> Adopted by House May 27, 1999
>
> Readopted by House July 9, 1999
> ----------------------------------
> Chief Clerk of House
> ----------------------------------
> Speaker of House
> Adopted by Senate July 7, 1999

> ----------------------------------
> President of Senate
>Enrolled House Joint Resolution 90 (HJR 90-B) Page 2